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17 October Movement: Siher accused of terrorism. Telegram accounts emptied; speculation about chats on Signal

The 30-year-old researcher is in custody; the Milan Public Prosecutor’s Office is due to apply for confirmation of his detention tomorrow. His wife is also under investigation. Rumours of new encrypted conversations are circulating on radical channels

In un fermoimmagine di un video di ANSA-ALANEWS Youssef Siher intervistato dai giornalisti a margine della manifestazione dei Giovani Palestinesi a Milano contro il Comune il 12 luglio 2025.  (Ansa)

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A charge of terrorism, a detention to be reviewed by a judge, and a digital network that seems to have suddenly fallen silent. But it may already be seeking new channels through which to communicate.

The Milan Public Prosecutor’s Office’s investigation into the 17 October Movement is entering a decisive phase: tomorrow, Public Prosecutor Francesca Crupi will seek confirmation of the detention of Youssef Siher, the 30-year-old researcher whom investigators believe to be one of the key figures behind the movement that emerged following the street violence in the Lombard capital. These are serious allegations, all of which remain to be proven.

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Meanwhile, the movement’s Telegram channel has gone quiet: discussions have been closed, administrators are on high alert, and there are no signs of further mobilisation. Yet, according to rumours circulating on Telegram channels linked to the radical movement, new dedicated chat groups are reportedly springing up on Signal, the encrypted messaging platform. This scenario remains to be verified, and it is important to distinguish between any criminal liability on the part of the organisers and the position of the many users who had joined the channel without necessarily endorsing violent intentions or committing offences.

Youssef, the terrorism charges and the confirmation of his detention

The court hearing is scheduled for tomorrow, when Public Prosecutor Francesca Crupi, from the anti-terrorism section of the Milan Public Prosecutor’s Office, will submit a request for the arrest to be validated. The judge responsible for preliminary investigations will then, upon receiving the case files, set a date for the hearing and assess the legality of the measure.

Siher, a second-generation Italian of Moroccan origin, was transferred from Milan Police Headquarters to prison following a lengthy interrogation. He faces charges of incitement to commit a criminal offence, organised violence at public demonstrations and terrorism. According to investigators, he is believed to be one of the administrators of the Telegram channel and Instagram page of the 17 October Movement, through which content inciting and glorifying crime is said to have been disseminated.

The most serious charge relates to Article 270-bis, first paragraph, of the Criminal Code, which punishes anyone who promotes, establishes, organises, directs or finances associations aimed at carrying out violent acts for terrorist purposes or with the aim of subverting the democratic order. The penalty provided for ranges from seven to fifteen years’ imprisonment.

This is a particularly serious legal charge, which must, however, be substantiated by the evidence gathered by the investigators. Membership of a protest movement, managing a social media page and even the dissemination of radical messages do not, in themselves, prove the existence of a terrorist organisation. It will be necessary to ascertain the conduct attributed to the 30-year-old and to verify whether all the elements required by law are present.

His wife is also under investigation: the mobile phone that helped track down Siher

The investigation also involves the researcher’s wife, a 32-year-old intercultural mediator of Lebanese origin, who is under investigation alongside her husband for incitement to commit a criminal offence.

According to the investigators, both are believed to have managed the Instagram and Telegram pages of the 17 October Movement. Indeed, it was the woman’s mobile phone that proved decisive in tracking down Siher on Saturday morning: the 30-year-old had switched off his phone and could not be located. The investigators are said to have managed to track him down via his wife’s device.

Born and raised in Como, where she is registered as a resident, the woman describes herself on social media as ‘Lebanese, Palestinian and Arab by identity’. The couple are said to have married last September and are believed to be living in the province of Milan, despite having different registered addresses: he in Mazzano, in the Brescia area, and she in Como.

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17 October Movement: Telegram is emptying out – rumours about the new Signal chats

Meanwhile, the protest movement appears to have ground to a halt, at least on its main public platform. The day after the police operation, the ‘17 October Movement’ Telegram channel presents an almost surreal picture: the chat rooms are still there, but the conversations have ceased. Everywhere, the same message appears: ‘Topic closed’. No discussion, no new exchanges. All that remains is the echo of a protest that was announced but never got off the ground.

Siher’s arrest is said to have alarmed the other directors, whose names had already been published on Telegram channels linked to far-right groups, as reported by Il Sole 24 Ore.

But silence does not necessarily mean the movement has disappeared. According to rumours circulating in radical circles, new dedicated chat groups are reportedly being set up on Signal, an app that protects communications through end-to-end encryption.

It is not yet possible to determine who is running these potential new groups, what their connection is to the 17 October Movement, and whether they truly represent a continuation of the original network.

After all, the Telegram channel also attracted a diverse audience, which cannot be identified as a whole with criminal or terrorist circles. Participation in an online discussion, even a particularly radical one, does not automatically entail any criminal liability. It is one thing to engage in potentially unlawful individual conduct; it is quite another to be part of a digital community where differing views are expressed.

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