The word from the manager: Frederic Moeremans d'Emaus (Values AM)

'There is value among mining companies'

"The gold rush, central bank diversification, and the crisis of confidence over global debt are driving companies like Newmont and Barrick Gold"

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3' min read

The recent fall in the stock markets was an overreaction to the optimism that has characterised the markets for some time, whereas in sector terms the gains in technology are supported by hard data and there is therefore no risk of a speculative bubble. This is explained in detail by Frederic Moeremans d'Emaus manager of Valori Asset Management.

What did you make of such a major stock market crash followed by an equally sudden rise?

The trigger for this movement came from a change in sentiment resulting from excessive optimism in the markets that was not backed up by timely data. By the same token, however, I think the reaction has been excessive. Let me give you an example: the average US unemployment rate over the last 10 years is 4.75%, while the figure for July alone was 4.30, so not dramatic. Furthermore, a very important figure such as the Ism Services (51.4), which indicated an expanding economy, was completely ignored by the market. Instead, this is a signal that should, in my opinion, calm the climate.

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And what role did speculation play?

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Certainly important. After the BoJ's rate hike, the carry trade mechanism on the yen abruptly jammed, causing a wave of selling that spread from the Japanese market to all the other listings.

Turning to the corporate side, the earnings of companies in the S&P 500 in the vast majority of cases beat estimates. Poor analyst skills or great management skills?

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This quarterly report also confirms that two-thirds of the US companies that reported earnings show results above consensus (even if at the revenue level the number of companies beating estimates is falling). Although from a numerical point of view, it may seem very interesting, the informative value of this data should be analysed in more detail. In fact, it is not unusual for some companies, despite beating estimates, to give less rosy indications of the future or to have incorporated estimates above the official consensus in their prices, and then suffer heavy losses (see Nike and Micron Technology).

Are there industries that could withstand economic and geopolitical turbulence better than others?

The historical correlation between gold and gold mines leaves me optimistic that the latter can close the performance gap in their favour, and I remain positive on defensive themes in the healthcare, consumer staples, following the sharp contraction in multiples, and utilities sectors due to the impact on demand of artificial intelligence.

What is your view on the monetary policy of central banks?

Although the Fed has been terribly late, it must be credited with appropriate management and communication, it has managed well to steer a frenzied market that first discounted 7 cuts on 2024 (by 25 bps) and then reassessed everything and incorporated 2 cuts to date. I remain confident, therefore, in the ability to manage a situation that is not easy, thanks also to the flexibility in the timing of the reduction of assets on the balance sheet.

Artificial intelligence now sets the pace in the markets, but what is the real financial situation of companies related to this sector in terms of fundamentals? Isn't there an overvaluation risk?

Compared to the past (2000 dot com bubble), the vast majority of companies involved in the Ia have already managed to derive concrete and not hypothetical future profits. Clearly the magnitude of the growth trajectory, leaves room for very subjective estimates ergo in the face of corporate valuations exceeding 10x revenues, some doubt may come or some aftershock cannot be ruled out. Recall what happens in a Nvidia quarterly where the stock rises 30% after results far exceeding expectations.

The companies you find most interesting?

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Alphabet remains a leader in the tech industry, with reasonable multiples. The latest quarterly report still shows double digit revenue growth (+15% year-on-year). Diversification is starting to pay off, cloud is growing and fears about the search part (search engine with 57% of revenues) being cannibalised by Ia are overblown. The recent gold rush, driven by geopolitical tensions, central bank diversification and crises of confidence over increasingly out-of-control global debt, create an opportunity in mining companies such as Newmont and Barrick Gold.

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IL TITOLO IN BORSA

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The correlation between commodities and oil has always been positive, but in the last period there has been a bifurcation, which in my opinion is unfair. The war in Ukraine highlighted Europe's vulnerability to gas and oil. Now that prices have returned to pre-war levels, with the arrival of Qatari and US supplies, the price should come under further downward pressure; therefore, I think we can again look at energy companies such as Basf and Arcelor Mittal. Among financials, Deutsche Bank deserves attention. The stock is still trading largely at a discount (0.4x tangible assets) and the quarter's results were overshadowed by costs related to the Postbank litigation and the increase in provisions related to the Commercial Real Estate portfolio in the US. In contrast, revenue growth above EUR 30bn is visible and the outlook on costs is also benign, so a rerating of the stock is possible.

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