Interview

Elly Schlein: 'Duties, business and labour: here are the proposals of the PD'

The Pd secretary after the campaign to listen to the manufacturing world: US duties cause uncertainty, fresh resources are needed. "Meloni's mission? So far it doesn't seem to have had great results".

by Emilia Patta

Elly Schlein (Imagoeconomica)

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"The duties have already started to do great damage even before 2 April, when US President Donald Trump signed them, because they have caused the uncertainty that is the first enemy of economic development. This is something that all the business organisations, large medium and small, cooperatives, farmers' organisations, and also the trade unions that we have met in recent days have told us. They have told me about goods stuck in the ports and orders that have vanished. We have seen that in just a few days about 14 trillion dollars have been burnt in the stock markets and the stock market has had a collapse comparable to that of 9/11'.

Pd secretary Elly Schlein has in the past few hours concluded her campaign to listen to businesses and social partners and launches an appeal to the government to deal with the duty emergency: "Let's work together on some urgent measures in favour of businesses, starting with the reshaping of unused Transition 5.0 funds and the misalignment of the price of electricity from that of gas. Italy exported EUR 65 billion of goods to the US in 2024, with a strong trade surplus of EUR 39 billion, and is the second largest exporting country after Germany. So it is clear that Trump's duties risk hitting Italian companies and workers in particular. A trade war that would have catastrophic results both globally and for a country like ours must be averted at all costs and trust must be rebuilt. And I would like to point out a further concern that we have picked up among companies: it is true that there has been a 90-day suspension, but the 10% and 25% duties on steel and cars have remained. But above all, the mega duty between the US and China has remained, with the consequence that Chinese overcapacity risks being dumped on European markets'.

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Secretary, yesterday was the day of Giorgia Meloni's mission to Washington.

The PM has pledged to increase military spending and get Italian companies to invest 10 billion in the US when she has not yet found one to protect those affected by duties and avoid relocations. In return she apparently got a visit from Trump to Italy. So far that doesn't seem like much of a balance. In general, the issue is not to dialogue with Trump, but to do it head-on. The key issue is not to give Trump the idea that he can deal bilaterally with each country, which is what he would like in order to weaken the European Union. Europe must be united and united in this negotiation and must be ready to strike where it hurts the most, which is the American Big Tech that supports Trump. The current president is our political opponent, but this does not mean giving up the fundamental relationship with the United States. We must therefore negotiate until the last possible minute, and do so with the knowledge that we are a market of 500 million people, the second largest trading power in the world and the third largest in terms of GDP. And also by clarifying what for Europe is negotiable and what is not: we must defend both the quality and distinctiveness of our products. In the USA, to be clear, there are quite different rules on GMOs and glyphosates than in Europe.

Is it right to open up to other markets, to China?

Think of the paradox: Trump is distorting the world order and international legality to distance Russia from China to the point of assuming the motives of the aggressor and unacceptably humiliating Ukraine, and he probably also aims with this trade war to distance the EU from China: instead, he risks achieving the opposite effect. Because it is clear that the world does not end with the US. I think it is right for the EU Commission to prepare for the July summit by giving a signal of cautious resumption of dialogue with China, and I emphasise cautious, as long as our values are held firmly: this applies to the unacceptable support for Russia in the war against Ukraine, as well as to safeguards against social and wage dumping.

The government has put forward the hypothesis of 25 billion in aid to businesses from the reshuffling of funds from the NRP. What are the proposals of the PD?

On the European level we need, even regardless of the duties, a large common European investment plan, a new Next Generation EU of at least 800 billion, financed by common debt, with the aim of supporting European companies in the double ecological and digital transition. If tariffs are confirmed, then we need an Enterprise and Labour Fund and the reactivation of the Sure instrument. Open to new markets, break down internal barriers to the single market and simplify. As far as Italy is concerned, it should be noted that the Spanish government has immediately fielded a 14 billion decree, at least half of which is made up of fresh resources. For heaven's sake, while we do not want to touch the cohesion funds because we would be taking resources away from fragile areas and sectors, when it comes to remodelling the funds misplaced by this government on Transition 5.0, we agree: too many bureaucratic and too complicated steps, as Confindustria has also reiterated in recent hours. But fresh resources are also needed. Today I heard something that left me astonished: Economy Minister Giorgetti said that it is Europe that has prevented us from doing Industry 4.0. There is no company that does not say that those measures worked well, but the government wanted to use European funds without wanting to find resources to refinance those measures. The impression is that on Industry 4.0, as well as on the implementation of the NRP, ideological flags have so far prevailed more than the interest of the country in preserving the good things done by previous governments. Our proposal also concerns energy: let us de facto decouple the price of electricity from that of gas, either with a cap on the price of gas as in Spain and Portugal or with power purchase agreements. Finally, we need measures to support access to credit and measures to boost domestic consumption: the wage issue must be addressed with the renewal of contracts for 5 million workers and, as far as we are concerned, we need the minimum wage.

Shouldn't there be collaboration between majority and opposition on these issues?

Our proposals are ready and are available to the political parties. We are always willing to cooperate on these big issues in the interest of the country, but unlike elsewhere in Europe, the Meloni government has not yet summoned us to discuss the issue of duties.

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