Interview

Gnut: ‘Neapolitan songs as World Heritage? Yes, but they always have been’

The Neapolitan singer-songwriter, a finalist in the Targhe Tenco awards, talks about his latest album, *Dduje paravise*, and his next one, which draws on influences from the Mediterranean, the Maghreb and Mali

by Francesco Prisco

Il cantautore Gnut, finalista alle Targhe Tenco con l’album «Dduje paravise» insciso assieme ad Alessandro D’Alessandro

6' min read

Translated by AI
Versione italiana

6' min read

Translated by AI
Versione italiana

About a month after his nomination for UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage, how is Neapolitan song? We’d love to interview it in person, but as it’s intangible, that’s rather difficult. Instead, we’ve decided to speak to someone we consider one of its leading contemporary exponents: Gnut, aka Claudio Domestico, aged 45, a professional singer-songwriter, with six albums and two EPs to his name, including his own projects and collaborations, right up to Dduje paravise, a beautiful album shared with the accordionist Alessandro D’Alessandro in which he reinterprets ancient and modern classics from the Neapolitan songbook. An album that reached the shortlist for the best performer’s album at the latest edition of the Targhe Tenco awards, for which voting is taking place right now.

Gnut, let’s start with the facts. What’s your view on the nomination of Neapolitan song as Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity?
Let me start by saying that I don’t have a great relationship with plaques, prizes and institutional accolades in general. My view is that Neapolitan song has always been part of humanity’s heritage. We’re talking, after all, about a repertoire that has had a global influence: Elvis Presley recorded Neapolitan classics in English, ’O Sole mio is by far the song that has been translated into the most languages worldwide, and that particular sound even influenced the Beatles on some of their tracks... In short: we could discuss this at length. Whether or not this recognition comes to pass, it won’t change the depth and significance of Neapolitan song.

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Which Neapolitan masters are you most attached to, and which ones do you think deserve to be rediscovered?
Let’s start with Pino Daniele: he was one of the first artists I ever listened to. Then I travelled the world, starting with grunge, before returning to Neapolitan song. My most important point of reference within the tradition is Roberto Murolo. I love his ultra-minimalist approach: he broke away from the old interpretation a fronna ‘e limone, with a revolutionary style that I’d describe as that of an American crooner. The work he did with the Antologia Napoletana, too, is fundamental to our culture. Among the names worth rediscovering, I’d include Enzo Gragnaniello, James Senese, Marcello Colasurdo and the maestro Roberto De Simone, about whom, shamefully, very little is said. As far as I’m concerned, Piazza Garibaldi should be renamed Piazza De Simone.

Let’s talk now about the album Dduje paravise. How did it come about?
It all started a year ago. Alessandro D’Alessandro and I didn’t even know each other in person. Of course, we had mutual friends who spoke highly of each other, and then, by a strange coincidence, we’d both been guests of Stefano Bollani at Via dei Matti N. 0 during the same season, though we didn’t actually meet. A year ago, he was a guest at an artist-in-residence programme organised by Toscana Produzione Musica. The theme was Naples, and the idea was to put together a show centred on Neapolitan songs. He got hold of my number and we had a chat. Initially, the project was supposed to focus solely on Pino Daniele’s repertoire, but I didn’t fancy capitalising on the tenth anniversary of his death. So we had to look for alternatives. When I realised we were short on time, I took the ‘easy’ option, suggesting songs I’d already performed in my own style. Let’s just say I played it safe. Then, when Alessandro and I met up, we included ‘Villanella di Cenerentola’, ‘E cerase’ and the two previously unreleased tracks. Some interesting things emerged: E mò e mò, performed at Sanremo 1988 by Peppino di Capri, has, for example, become a ballad...
We played these songs in theatres across Tuscany, as the project intended, then Squilibri Musicali, Alessandro’s record label, suggested we turn them into an album. I didn’t think twice about it. A project like that, you either build it up over ten years or you do it in two days.

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Dduje paravise reinterprets tradition, something ‘sacred’ to Neapolitans. In the past, scathing judgements were not spared even mainstream names such as Lucio Dalla and Renzo Arbore, guilty of dabbling in the Neapolitan language without having been born in Naples...
Times have changed somewhat since then: today, paradoxically, Neapolitans are more tolerant of those who sing traditional songs despite not having been born here than of those who are Neapolitan but do not conform to the traditional stereotype.

The ‘Gnut Estate 2026’ tour is currently underway, with some dates featuring D’Alessandro and others without. How did you put it together?
I would have liked to devote this whole period entirely to Dduje paravise. But it’s not easy. Partly because Alessandro, when he plays, brings a whole arsenal of effects pedals with him, and partly because some of my audience want to hear my songs. So I’ve decided to alternate the sets.

How would you describe Gnut to someone who doesn’t know him?
I’m a songwriter who tries to blend my passions. There’s definitely a Neapolitan element to my music, because being Neapolitan is, after all, a hallmark – in the positive sense of the word. But there are other influences too, ranging from Nick Drake to Delta blues: Elliott Smith, English folk, the Beatles – particularly Lennon’s solo work – Ali Farka Touré… It’s a bit like when you’re cooking and you throw in a bit of everything to bring out the flavour.

Is singing in Neapolitan more of an opportunity or a limitation?
For the kind of research I’m doing, it’s an opportunity. I’m working on a concept album due for release in March next year that brings together the Mediterranean, the Maghreb and Mali. I draw inspiration from repertoires dating back hundreds of years: we’re talking about spiritual lyrics that refer to a time when music was primarily a religious instrument. Engaging with all this, I feel fortunate to be Neapolitan. My roots are my wealth of experience.

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Compared to your Neapolitan colleagues who have moved to Milan or Rome, is living and making music in Naples more of an opportunity or a limitation?
Let’s put it this way: living in Naples and engaging with the outside world is an opportunity. I’ve lived in Milan, I release music on a French label, and I think we must avoid the ‘reverse Lega’ paradox as much as possible. Closing ourselves off from the outside world isn’t the right way forward. Tradition isn’t something you just display on a noticeboard.

You’ve actually released music on Piers Faccini’s Beating Drum label. How did this collaboration come about?
I met Piers in London in 2002. Neither of us had released an album yet. He was composing soundtracks for the BBC and also painting. A few years later, he released his first album; we became friends, kept in touch, and in 2008 he took on the artistic production of my second album, Il rumore della luce, which was released in 2011. When he set up Beating Drum, he suggested I work with them, but I was tied up with other labels. As soon as I could, I gladly accepted the offer: together we made the EP Hear my voice and my latest album Nun te ne fa’ from 2022. The collaboration continues: I’ll be co-producing my next album, due for release next year, with Beating Drum and Ponderosa.

Do you think that, given the kind of music you make, there might be more interest abroad than in Italia?
I think the next album, which focuses on the Mediterranean, naturally has an international dimension. It must be said, however, that abroad I’m a newcomer, whilst in Italia I’m reaping what I began to sow 25 years ago.

Compared to the days of physical records, is there more or less freedom today for people in your line of work?
I enjoyed the era of physical media and remember it fondly. We’re living through a strange moment in history: the volume of output is enormous, loads of new music comes out every Friday, and there’s such a vast array of music on offer that it’s hard to know where to start listening. I’d say that, for people in my line of work, we need to be a bit braver. Since so much is being produced, we might as well go all out. On the contrary, the paradox is that everyone’s seeking conformity: if a reggaeton track is successful, everyone makes a reggaeton track, and that’s a shame because in art, the only thing that pays off is truth. Fortunately, it seems to me that today’s twenty-somethings are starting to realise this.

What are your ambitions, as a man and as an artist?
To write genuine songs, to play better and better. I live for music; I’m happy – I’m already lucky enough as it is. The competition is with myself: I don’t have to prove anything.

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