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Space, satellite merger talks. Here is what Airbus, Thales and Leonardo are discussing

A reorganisation of the European manufacturing industry is at the centre of the discussion, which also took place at the ongoing aerospace show in Farnborough

by Gianni Dragoni

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Big manoeuvres in space. A reorganisation of the European manufacturing industry is at the centre of the talks, which also took place at the current aerospace show in Farnborough, between Leonardo and the French groups Thales and Airbus.

Exploratory talks

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The two transalpine companies have started discussions to explore a possible merger of their satellite manufacturing activities, in which they are making losses. The aim is to stop competing with each other and thus try to strengthen themselves.

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The Space Alliance between Leonardo and Thales

Leonardo has a Space Alliance with Thales, through two joint ventures. One, Thales Alenia Space (Tas), produces satellites, but Leonardo has only 33 per cent, the 67 per cent majority share is held by its French partner Thales. The other joint venture, Telespazio, makes satellite services, Leonardo holds 67 per cent, Thales 33 per cent. Leonardo is party to talks with Airbus and Thales to discuss the fate of Tas.

What we are talking about

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"All three companies are talking to each other. It is not easy to create bigger national champions in this field. We are talking together about what the future could look like,' said Franco Ongaro, head of Leonardo's space division, during a press presentation of the new division.

The risks for Leonardo

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A possible merger of the activities of the two Frenchmen could put Leonardo in a corner, because the size of the other two is larger. Airbus has a turnover of around €2.7 billion in the sector, but is also the biggest loser, announcing 900 million losses in the first half of this year. Thales controls 67% of the satellite joint venture, Tas, which has 2.2 billion in revenues in 2023.

Losses in France, profits in Italy

Thales Alenia Space has losses in France while making profits in the Italian company, known as Tasi (Thales Alenia Space Italia), and this hinders the development of Italian activities, particularly in the Turin plant. Investments and hiring in Italy are being held back because there are problems in France. The Italian part of the satellite company is more dynamic, but Leonardo is a minority shareholder in this leg of the Space Alliance with Thales. The other leg, the service company Telespazio, on the other hand, makes good profits.

Elon Musk's impact

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Tasi's CEO Massimo Comparini, who is about to take Ongaro's place as head of the space division, said that "Tasi's revenues in 2023 were 950 million", about 60 per cent higher than in 2020, when they were 600 million. "This year, revenues will exceed 1 billion." The losses in France, according to Leonardo's managers, come mainly from telecommunications satellites, a market in which prices have plummeted following the tumultuous rise of Elon Musk and his Starlink constellation.

Unbalanced situation

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This unbalanced situation creates tension, even though officially the relations between the top management of the two groups are good. "In other times we were the partner losing money, today it is someone else," said Ongaro. "Work is being done to find a solution. It is a time when all over the world geotelecommunications are not doing very well,' he added.

How much is space division worth

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Leonardo's space division has a pro forma turnover of 850 million in 2023, said Ongaro, including Telespazio's 701 million in revenues (the new CEO, Gabriele Pieralli, who took office on 16 April, recalled this) and those realised in the sector by Leonardo. This sum does not include the revenues of Tasi, because this company is consolidated by Thales. But in the reorganisation under discussion with the French, even these figures may have a weight.

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  • Gianni Dragoni

    Gianni DragoniCaporedattore, inviato

    Luogo: Roma

    Lingue parlate: italiano, inglese, francese

    Argomenti: economia, finanza, industria aerospazio, difesa, industria ferroviaria, trasporto aereo, grandi aziende pubbliche, privatizzazioni, bilanci società di calcio, stipendi manager, governance società quotate, conflitti d'interesse

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