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Surrender - when AI became our God

A discussion between a lay journalist and spirituality enthusiast and a Franciscan friar, theologian, considered to be one of Europe's leading experts on artificial intelligence, to discuss ethics and spirituality in the age of artificial intelligence

by Gianluca Nicoletti and Father Paolo Benanti

2' min read

Translated by AI
Versione italiana

2' min read

Translated by AI
Versione italiana

The new podcast of 24Ore Podcast The Surrender - when AI became our God by Gianluca Nicoletti, journalist and presenter of Melog on Radio 24, and Father Paolo Benanti, Franciscan friar, theologian, professor of Moral Philosophy at Luiss Guido Carli, and member of the UN High Level Advisory Board on AI, is online.

A few days after Pope Leo XIV's First Encyclical, Magnifica Humanitas, in which artificial intelligence is discussed, attention has been focused on the impact of algorithms and technology not only on our lives but on our thinking and humanity.

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What is the relationship between ethics and artificial intelligence? Where is the space for spirituality in the machine age? And after intelligence, will the soul also become artificial?

With a lucidity devoid of moralism, Gianluca Nicoletti and Paolo Benanti bring concrete cases of AI: from the comparison of their different points of view, sometimes disturbing contradictions emerge related to the themes of immortality, knowledge, communication, ethics, aesthetics, and what it means to be human at the time of artificial intelligence. Of the many possible ways to tackle the subject of Artificial Intelligence, Nicoletti and Benanti have chosen to talk about it not from a purely human point of view, but by using the tools of the history of technology, philosophy and theology in a provocative and original way.

In the first two episodes we talk about transcendence, whether AI can be seen as the framework for accessing the Sacred, or can itself become the Sacred, and then about eternal life: whether to think of it in the kingdom of heaven, or as a cloud where data is stored forever.

"In light of the attention Pope Leo devoted to Artificial Intelligence in his encyclical," says Gianluca Nicoletti, "as a layman, I felt the need to ask myself some questions; I talked to a Franciscan friar who is an expert on the subject, to understand how much the code could be interpreted as 'Scripture'. Will a chat bot one day make humans believe that it represents a possible vehicle of transcendence? Already we question an algorithm for medical, legal, psychological advice. Will there come a day when someone will start praying in front of a smartphone for mercy'?

"I had a dialogue in podcast form," says Father Paolo Benanti, "with a journalist who has been studying the effects of technology on society for years, starting from my idea of computational power, understood as the contemporary form of domination. I think it is not a force divorced from historical and social context, but its most authentic incarnation: the way our societies produce, distribute and contest supremacy. The encyclical Magnifica humanitas shares this diagnosis, brings it into the register of the magisterium and roots it in the tradition of the Church's social doctrine, adding to the diagnosis a normative proposal that deserves to be read with the utmost attention'.

"Surrender - when AI became our God" is a 6-part podcast series, the first two episodes of which are available from 27 May on the website and App of Radio 24, 24 Hour Podcast and on all major listening platforms.

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