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We need the shadows to see the light

The French writer Éric Chevillard in 'Holy Heaven' imagines an afterlife where we know everything, understand everything, but can do nothing more

(Credit: Gigi Cozzarin)

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'Talking about a book is a bit like going back into that fog that preceded it, from which it was born to dispel it,' Éric Chevillard tells me over a coffee in Pordenone, where tomorrow, Friday 19 September, he will be on stage at the Arena Europa, guest of Pordenonelegge, for a staged reading with Paolo Di Paolo.

(Credit: Gigi Cozzarin)

I have just finished interviewing him, forcing him to find another, much more imperfect form to say what he has already said. Earlier, he had said that he loves short, concentrated forms, and at the opposite end of the spectrum, continuous digression, aware of the paradox: 'On the one hand I feel that I would never want to stop writing, on the other that I write to put a point on it'. I hope, therefore, that asking him about his latest book: Santo cielo (preface by Paolo Di Paolo, translation by Gianmaria Finardi, Prehistorica, pp. 176, euro 17) can be seen as a digression on the subject.

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Goodness... what is it about?

It is the story of a man who dies and finds himself in the afterlife somewhat bewildered by what he discovers. In this celestial sojourn he has a complete view of the world below him, as if he were on a belvedere. He sees people living on earth and has absolute knowledge of what life has been like, of all that he has not understood. Everything is now revealed to him. He realises that heaven is a kind of bureaucracy, where you go from office to office to understand things. Heaven is a bit of a fantasy of life after death, it investigates the ghost we have, the desire to have perfect knowledge of life, its meaning, and everything that has happened in one's existence

Albert Moindre, the protagonist, learns where he lost his umbrella, he knows if a certain woman really loved him, how many women really loved him, how many chickens he ate, how many steps he climbed, what happened to his friend he lost sight of. In paradise all is revealed to him, he has the solution to all questions, from the most anecdotal to the most profound, he can finally know who is the greatest writer of all, as if there is a supreme truth to which he can have access.

I grew up with a Catholic upbringing and in my childhood I always had the idea that going to heaven did not mean meeting god but having a point from which one could see everything about people, enter into all secrets, have total knowledge of the world.

More than meeting god is a bit of becoming god...

Yes, a god without the powers of god. One who understands everything but can do nothing. The protagonist sees his daughter live, sees that what he thought was his best friend sometimes speaks ill of him, knows everything but can no longer act. He sees the dangers threatening his daughter, who falls in love with a jerk, but can do nothing....

When he finally knows everything, he is paralysed ... Is there a metaphorical meaning in this?

Yes, there is this idea that our life is one of darkness and ignorance and that perfect knowledge would lead to stillness. We are made to live among mysteries, we need the shadows to see the light. Under such a terrible floodlight we would be terrified, paralysed. Curiosity is the engine of humanity.

Who is Albert Moindre, a man without qualities?

Yes, nice definition, a man without qualities. Moindre means in narrow French, minor, of no great openness. Not mediocre but without qualities, an ordinary man, without too many characteristics. I was interested in him as a corpse, we all look alike when we're dead. One with a life like everyone else. But in the end it turns out that he was one of the rare engineers who knew how to build a transhipment bridge, and this speciality makes him somewhat indispensable. Every human being has a role to play and when he disappears, something is lost. I have written another book Sans l'orang-outan, where I imagine the catastrophic consequences of the disappearance of this ape, I imagine that he is indipensable to the chain of life, and that if he disappears nothing works in the world any more. I try in this way to talk about mourning: even if every life is replaceable every life is important and when someone dies it is a point of view that dies, it is an impoverishment of the sensitive world. Moindre realises this in his observatory in the sky, even with a certain vanity, he realises that he was a bit important, he misses his daughter, for example. For once I wanted to give the dead man's point of view on the tragedy of mourning.

Humour is a recurring ingredient in your books, why?

It's a characteristic of mine, I always try to arouse the humorous effect, which for me has all the qualities. It can express anger, indignation, it is a weapon to fight, and also to witness emotions: with a bit of irony you can show affection for someone. The most beautiful declarations of love are those with a bit of humour, which allows one to escape from the repertoire of classic phrases, to make banal situations unique.

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