Interview with Marina Calderone

'From November, Naspi recipients enter the circuit of active labour policies'

by Giorgio Pogliotti, Claudio Tucci

MARINA ELVIRA CALDERONE MINISTRO DEL LAVORO E DELLE POLITICHE SOCIALI

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On labour, the government's next challenges are played out on the training, active policies and security front. From November the unemployed will be automatically included in the new active policy system. The release of the third edition of the New Skills Fund, which finances the training of workers, is expected in a few days. This was announced by the Minister of Labour, Marina Calderone, who took stock of the new developments and the results achieved in the two years of government.

Minister Calderone, among the main decisions was the cancellation of the Rdc, which held together assistance with active policies, and the introduction of the Inclusion Allowance and the Training and Employment Support. How are these measures going?

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The change of perspective, the division of audiences into two distinct instruments but nevertheless aimed at inclusion has increased the effectiveness of accompanying beneficiaries and their relationship with services on the ground. It has meant an effort on everyone's part, but activation has gone from being an objective to an applied reality. Not without some difficulties, which are to be expected in the implementation of such an articulated and multi-level reform, on which the working groups between the Ministry, Inps, Regions and Municipalities have worked tirelessly. The dynamism that has characterised the world of work over the past year has had a positive impact, especially on the number of potential beneficiaries on the Training and Employment Support for which we recorded, at the beginning of September, 140,000 accepted applications. On the Assegno di inclusione (Inclusion Allowance) front, on the other hand, there were 725,000 accepted applications with at least one payment at the beginning of September.

A cornerstone of the operation is the new Siisl platform that also uses AI to improve the matching of labour supply and demand.

Siisl is a state-of-the-art system, the example that public administration can and must lead innovation. Although it was used in the first phase to manage the transition to the new social and labour inclusion measures, its design has a broader horizon, and the forthcoming expansions in the audience and functionalities are practical evidence of this. In November, new beneficiaries of Naspi and Dis-Coll will automatically enter the platform, while in the last flows decree it was foreseen that those who arrive in Italy with a work permit will be automatically enrolled in the System for Social and Labour Inclusion. Which also becomes the tool to manage the accompaniment to work of those who denounce or cooperate in investigations to bring out the caporalato. We have chosen to use what technology makes available to us, including artificial intelligence, to improve the matching of labour supply and demand, offer personalised services to citizens to fill any training gaps, and overcome the current system of informal intermediation. In fact, with Siisl we finally have the possibility of increasing employment without giving up supporting those who really need it. A model that, when fully operational, also looks at better utilisation of resources and making continuous training functional to supporting productivity. In fact, the Cohesion Decree already includes a rating system for the effectiveness of training courses, based on the number of participants who find work within six months of the conclusion of the courses.

Training is central, and the New Skills Fund has proved to be a valuable tool: when will the notice come out, with what dowry and what new features compared to previous editions?

The third edition of the New Skills Fund is part of a set of measures that, over the past two years, have put training at the centre of labour policies. It is essential in order to cope both with the difficulties companies face in finding workers and to be able to engage in transitions and seize opportunities. All G7 countries placed skills and their continuous updating as an asset in the concluding document of the Labour and Employment ministerial meeting in Cagliari, especially in view of the impact of artificial intelligence and demographic changes on labour. For this reason, too, the New Skills Fund, with some EUR 800 million at its disposal, will flank training for the employed with training for newly hired and unemployed workers who have passed a pre-selection in view of their entry into the company. Formal checks are being completed to start implementation.

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The credit licence is a reality. How is the take-up by companies going? Will the instrument be extended to other sectors?

We are respecting the timeframe indicated by the standard. The platform managed by the Labour Inspectorate became operational on 1 October and is working smoothly. To date (22 October for those reading this, ndr) more than 460,000 companies have entered the credit licence circuit. We are giving shape to a system of company qualification that has remained on paper for over a decade and the intention is to continue in this direction, maintaining a high level of monitoring to accompany, in the future, reflections on extending the measure to other sectors. Safety is a priority.

On the subject of safety at work, what measures are in place?

In the Council of Ministers on Monday 21 October, we strengthened actions to combat undeclared work, a phenomenon that also poses risks on the security front. We carry forward the commitments to implement the NRP by creating tools and 'networks' between organisations, associations, companies. Or by promoting those that already exist and are functional. Let's think about the network of quality agricultural work: in September there were just over 6,500 member companies. We attribute bonus criteria to registered companies in accessing Inail's Isi calls in a synergic action aimed at improving working conditions, the effectiveness of public spending, and support for those who invest in activities and collaborators within the rules, without subterfuge. We are also committed to the implementation of the Data Bank for Contracts in Agriculture and the Information System for the Fight against Corporalism, which were introduced in the summer. For 2024, a billion and a half additional resources have been earmarked in the Inail budget for accident prevention. The same effort will be continued for 2025.

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An initial response to denatality and mismatch is in the flows decree and in the Mattei plan: what news for businesses?

The demographic winter affects any action. This is why policies need to be integrated. The structure of the new flows decree responds to a current need, initiates a progressive transformation of the instrument, and is linked to the work of promoting training in the places of origin of workers, for which we are working on other missions in situ. Interoperability between databases and digitisation of the procedure also accompany us here. Then there is the launch of a path to overcome the click day, although for the first phase it will remain, and the creation of a system that binds the employer to confirm interest in hiring. Companies are then allowed to convert temporary employment contracts into stable employment relationships and seasonal workers to find new employment.

The single shock absorber was introduced last year to intervene in the flooded areas of Emilia-Romagna, Marche and Tuscany. Is a repeat planned?

The single shock absorber has proven its effectiveness in the almost immediate management of an emergency situation. It will therefore be used further where traditional income support tools are not deployable or do not guarantee a rapid response. We have foreseen its application for the new shock absorbers in derogation approved on Monday by the Council of Ministers in favour of the textile, clothing, footwear and tanning sector: eight weeks in 2024 for firms with up to 15 employees.

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