The EU Commissioner's Hearing

Defence, Kubilius: 'Russia could test us as early as 2027. I hope Italy finds a way to increase spending'

Kubilius' trip to Rome was aimed at promoting European space policy and strengthening the continent's space economy and competitiveness

by Andrea Carli

Il commissario Ue a Difesa e Spazio, Andrius Kubilius, risponde alle domande dei giornalisti in parlamento, dopo essere intervenuto in audizione

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The time for European rearmament is tight because the possibility of Moscow's aggression against NATO could be just around the corner. "Russia could test our resilience and response with Article 5 (of the North Atlantic Treaty, ed.). And it could test us as early as 2027," emphasised the EU Commissioner for Defence and Space, Andrius Kubilius, who was heard on Monday 26 May by the EU House and Senate Political Committees as part of his visit to Italy.

"We have to be ready for such developments," he added, speaking of the challenges that the EU and NATO face in the area of defence. But there are two other factors to consider. The first is that 'we must remember that we have to be ready for the military rise of China'. The second is the fact that the 'US is shifting more and more resources to the Indo-Pacific and less to Europe'.

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In general, Kubilius has no doubts: 'We are in a particularly delicate moment, with a particularly serious situation, not only given the threat of aggression from Russia but also the various signals coming from the intelligence community,' he said, answering questions from journalists, including Il Sole 24 Ore.

Kubilius and Urso visit Thales Alenia, Telespazio and Avio

Kubilius' trip to Rome was aimed at promoting European space policy and strengthening the continent's space economy and competitiveness. In the morning, prior to his speech in parliament, the European Commissioner (Vice-President of the Commission) met with the Minister for Enterprise and Made in Italy and Delegated Authority for Space and Aerospace Policy, Adolfo Urso. The two visited the satellite integration centre of Thales Alenia Space (a Thales and Leonardo joint venture) in Via Tiburtina in Rome, a strategic hub for Italian production capacity in satellite systems, telecommunications and Earth observation. The components required to build small and medium-sized satellites for national and European programmes, such as Galileo and COSMO-SkyMed second-generation satellites, the IRIDE programme satellites, and the third satellite for Defence, Sicral, are integrated here. Urso and Kubilius then reached the Fucino Space Centre of Telespazio (a joint venture between Leonardo and Thales), the world's first and most important 'teleport' for civil use, where in-orbit satellite control, telecommunications and television services are carried out on a global scale. Finally, Urso and Kubilius visited Avio's headquarters in Colleferro, Lazio.

Satellites: 'With Galileo and Copernicus we hope to do better than Starlink'

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"The Galileo programme," the EU commissioner emphasised in front of MEPs, "is the best satellite positioning programme in the world, Copernicus is the best as far as monitoring is concerned, we also have other programmes and we hope that there will be improvements, even to be better than Starlink, we hope to achieve better results.

European Commissioner: 'I hope Italy will find a way to increase defence spending'

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One of the topics that emerged in the conversation with journalists following the speech before the committees was that of rearmament. To contribute to European defence spending, Kubilius explained, "we have various instruments, which obviously also depend on the finances of individual countries. I hope that Italy will also find a way to increase its defence spending'. "We must also understand that defence is based on solidarity," he added, "because European defence is first and foremost inspired by the principle of collective defence, so if one of the European countries does not invest, then the defence of all will be weakened. 'I am particularly grateful to the Meloni government for its contribution in strengthening European defence,' he said. 'There is strong support from Italy for Ukraine.

"EU financial instrument needed, additional 800 billion needed"

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Remaining on the subject of resources, in his speech in parliament the European Commissioner recalled that to sustain defence spending 'we need an instrument at the European level, a financial instrument, to incentivise member states to arrive at joint purchases, at European purchases, therefore to purchase within the European framework'. "Experts in academia," he reminded, "warn us that we are going in a direction where we have to look at our defence capabilities, and that still requires more spending at the national level, with borrowing, of an additional EUR 800 billion for defence by the member states. Referring to the current forms of EU borrowing, Kubilius was clear: 'If we only have these instruments, then the structural problems that Draghi mentioned remain. We have a very fragmented defence industry, because each state has its own industry and cannot exploit the single market, and that is why we are losing out in global competition and member states are still spending a lot of money outside the European defence industry'.

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