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M5s tensions, a meeting between Grillo and Di Battista hovers

In view of a possible divorce, the division of assets is already being considered. Patuanelli: 'Second term rule to be overcome'

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Those who expected calm after the storm were wrong. The Five Star Movement, despite an underground work of some willing bridge-builders trying to extinguish the August fire sparked by the exchange of "courtesies" between founder Beppe Grillo and President Giuseppe Conte, has also in the last few hours registered a new battleground: the ownership of the name and symbol.

The rumours of a meeting between Grillo and Di Battista

In all this, the rumour of a possible meeting between the Guarantor and former dauphin Alessandro Di Battista is becoming more and more insistent, which, if it were to take place, would send a clear message - and not one of peace - to Conte. More than the 'if', it is the 'where' and 'when' that many - within the Movement itself - are asking themselves. And an opportunity may already be in sight, thanks to the activist's tour that is presenting his book 'Inconvenient Truths' around Italy.

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Di Battista: 'Me and Grillo? Newspapers with zero credibility say so'

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Of the Grillo-Di Battista meeting 'there was talk'. But 'Il Tempo wrote it, which as you know is a newspaper belonging to Angelucci of the League. What the political newspapers write leaves time to find'. Thus Di Battista, speaking on the evening of Friday 23 August in Riva Ligure (Imperia) to present the book 'Scomode verità. Dalla guerra in Ucraina al massacro di Gaza' (From the war in Ukraine to the Gaza massacre), responded to the rumour of Grillo's possible participation in the evening. There is talk of your rapprochement with Grillo, he was asked: 'There is talk,' he replied, 'Il Tempo always writes about it...'. And on the possible split between Grillo and Conte and the dispute over the party symbol, Di Battista went no further: '5 Star Movement business, I have not been part of it for three years'. He also ruled out a return to politics: 'You can also do politics from the outside. I don't know why they cyclically bring up newspapers that have zero credibility. Frankly, I don't waste any more time.

The hypothesis of a divorce and the knot of property division

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These are all non-distracting elements in already stressed relationships. And in view of a possible divorce, they are already thinking about the division of assets. Lorenzo Borrè, the dissidents' lawyer, was the first to throw a stone into the pond: who does the current 5s symbol belong to? 'The original symbol,' he explained to Repubblica, 'belongs to Grillo, who is also the sole owner of the right to use the name '5 Star Movement''. Borrè also cited a 2021 ruling by the Genoa Court of Appeal. To those who, on Conte's side, say that this is not true, he clarified: 'The current logo belongs to the association of the former premier, but it is a direct derivation of Beppe's' and 'if Conte's party decided to use the name and symbol against his will he could obtain an injunction, with a fine for each violation'. Alfonso Colucci, MP and notary public as well as coordinator of the Movement's legal area, thundered from the columns of the Corsera. "Both the name and the symbol are registered in the name of the current association,' he stressed, 'and Beppe Grillo, by virtue of specific contractual obligations - which are covered by confidentiality and do not refer to the €300,000 contract for communication that the M5S pays him every year - has expressly renounced any dispute concerning the use of both the name and the symbol of the M5S, as modified or modifiable in the future by the association itself. But Colucci is confident of a settlement: 'I think that a synthesis can be found from an albeit heated exchange of views'.

Patuanelli: "Second term rule to be overcome. The progressive camp is not in doubt'

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He extended the talk of 'peace' to the entire 'package-Movement' Stefano Patuanelli, leader of the M5s group in the Senate, certain that there is no reason 'to fear a split. Splits in a community,' he clarified in an interview with Sole 24 Ore, 'happen when there are parties that are not listened to. If you decide, as we have decided, to start a constituent process,' he added, 'the members must be able to discuss everything. It won't be me, it won't be Conte or anyone else in the ruling class who will impose the topics, but neither will it be anyone else who will limit them'.

Ricciardi: 'Everyone is important, but no one is indispensable'

'Splitting? We've been talking about it every six months for years and we're still here,' was the comment of M5s vice-president Riccardo Ricciardi who, however, observed: 'The untouchable Casaleggio, the former political leader Di Maio and the indispensable Di Battista are gone and nothing has happened... Everyone is important, but no one is indispensable'. He also read in the response of the grassroots (to date they quote 2,500 proposals arrived on the platform to design the new Movement) 'the confirmation that we are on the right path' made of 'confrontation and discussion'.

No splits and forward with the progressive broad camp that is "a concrete horizon", finally stated the head of the M5s group in the Chamber of Deputies, Francesco Silvestri, who sees in the Conte-Grillo clash more the hand of "journalistic fantasies" than reality: "On the contrary," he said with conviction, "I have never seen the parliamentary groups so united" and "proud of the work done in the last 15 years".

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