The Prime Minister

Meloni: ‘Relations with the US must return to normal. I hope there will be no repercussions’

In an interview with Belpietro at the ‘Day of Truth’ event, the Prime Minister returns to the subject of Trump’s attack

by Manuela Perrone

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Translated by AI
Versione italiana

5' min read

Translated by AI
Versione italiana

‘I believe our bilateral relations with the United States should return to normal; I said as much yesterday in the Council of Ministers. I think Tajani was right to cancel his trip to Miami, but there is no need to take it any further. The Government will be present at Villa Taverna. Because I haven’t changed my mind: Italian foreign policy will remain the same as it has been for the last 80 years.” In the words of Giorgia Meloni. Interviewed by Maurizio Belpietro at the conclusion of the ‘Day of Truth’ event, the Prime Minister first addressed questions about her relationship with the US President.

‘Genuinely shocked’ by Trump’s attack

Trump was annoyed by the raised finger? ‘I don’t know. I was genuinely taken aback; I’ve read the various accounts, with alleged videos that have gone viral, in which my demeanour might have seemed assertive, rather than the accounts suggesting they were intended to divert attention from the outcome of the negotiations with Iran and the difficulties within NATO. I don’t know. I do not intend to continue fuelling this row.”

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Long-standing cooperation: ‘it cannot be undone by social media debate’

Are you worried about any backlash? “I hope not. It seems to me that our business and our relationships have been going well in recent weeks too, including from an economic perspective. A week ago, Crosetto was meeting Hegseth in Washington; Italian exports have grown despite the tariffs, proving that our products are well received by American consumers. These are two systems with such a long and solid history of cooperation that it cannot be erased or called into question by a debate on social media. They are ‘independent’ of whoever governs the country.’ For Meloni, we need to ‘bring foreign policy back to the level of seriousness it deserves’ because ‘sometimes we really do talk about foreign policy as if it were Temptation Island – I say this in reference to the memes I’ve been seeing doing the rounds’.

Lebanon: ‘Italia and France can work together’

On the negotiations between the United States and Iran, “I am fairly optimistic, even if it is not exactly straightforward,” says the Prime Minister. “I don’t think our optimism should be passive” but active, involving engagement in the aftermath “both in the Strait of Hormuz and in Lebanon, where Italia has a long history. I intend to discuss this with Macron at Thursday’s intergovernmental summit; it is one of the areas where Italia and France can work together.”

Hormuz: ‘previous’ toll must be avoided

As for the Strait, the aim is to ensure the full restoration of freedom of navigation: any attempt to control it, through the toll proposed by the Iranians, could set a ‘precedent’ that must be avoided: ‘We would find ourselves catapulted into a world in which every key trade hub would become a means of exerting pressure on states and could be used as a weapon’. For this reason, the Government has ‘expressed its willingness, in a scenario of peace, to undertake a mission to guarantee freedom of navigation: parliamentary authorisation would be required, but I believe Italia should play its part’.

End-of-term objective: ‘To leave nuclear power to the country’

On domestic politics and the economy, whilst not shying away from a dig at the Minister for the Economy Giancarlo Giorgetti who had been a guest on stage just a few hours earlier (“I can imagine the wave of optimism”) and ruling out the need for further intervention on fuel prices, Meloni confirms her intention to see out the remainder of the parliamentary term and states: “First, I would like to leave the country with nuclear power”. As for how much of the flexibility granted by the EU on energy will be included in the bill, “it will depend on how quickly we can act. I am confident that the enabling act will be approved before the summer recess; the Government is already working on the implementing decrees’. However, the hope remains that ‘every single euro of the 14 billion granted under the flexibility scheme will reach households’ pockets and be made available to energy-intensive businesses’.

Lady Tax? ‘We tax the banks; Renzi used to bail them out’

When pressed on Matteo Renzi – who had nicknamed her “Lady Tax” – the Prime Minister retorted: “Renzi is always good for a joke, but it’s hard to argue that this is the ‘Government of Taxes’. Which tax have we raised? I’m not in a position to say. I could go through the list of everything we’ve cut. It’s rather difficult to claim that we’ve raised taxes. Unless Renzi – and I can’t rule this out – doesn’t mind that we’ve raised taxes on banks, insurance companies and energy firms. When he was in government, we used taxpayers’ money to bail out the banks; this government, on the other hand, asked them for a contribution – and they provided it – to help families in difficulty.”

The sprint for the overall title ‘launched by Renzi’

She also takes a dig at Italia Viva leader Meloni when asked about Roberto Vannacci: “My view is that the left talks about him so much because, unable to discuss their own coalition, they’re desperately trying to claim that ours has problems. Renzi was so busy launching an attack on Vannacci that he didn’t even realise he hadn’t been invited to the centre-left leaders’ meeting...”. But the Prime Minister does not appear concerned. “I think that when the elections come around, in a year’s time, whenever that may be, the only thing that will matter is: “Do you want the centre-right or the centre-left in government? Do you want a broad coalition or the coalition you’ve known over the past few years?” Then all those somewhat dubious polls, Renzi’s chatter, the political manoeuvring and the musings will be of no use whatsoever. I’m waiting for that moment because that’s the moment that will decide everything.” Responding to criticism from the opposition, she said: “It may well be that we’re not very good, but they were even worse, because many things are going much better than when our predecessors were in government. But that’s all part of the political debate.”

Electoral law is key to avoiding a return to instability

Meloni defends the electoral reform, because going back ‘would be devastating’. Today, ‘commenting on the resignation of Keir Starmer – and in three years I’ll now have seen my third British Prime Minister – Nigel Farage said: “We’ve become like Italia was a few years ago – that is, we have a prime minister who changes every year”. Unfortunately, that’s the truth. I always get angry when others talk about us as a negative example, but it’s the truth. Today, however, we are seen as an anchor of stability in an unstable Europe. Yesterday, we were the unstable Italia in a generally stable Europe. Now, I hope that Europe becomes more stable, but I certainly don’t want Italia to become unstable again.”

The provocation: ‘Is the opposition aiming for a draw?’

According to Meloni, everyone should rally round this objective. ‘What does the electoral law do?’ she explains. ‘It doesn’t give anyone an advantage; it’s a proportional system – whoever gets the most votes governs. But it gives whoever gets the most votes the power to form a majority and govern for five years. This is something we should all agree on. If they’ve already won the election by a landslide,” she retorts, “why aren’t they happy to be guaranteed a majority to govern for five years? Or perhaps we’re not so convinced we’ll win, and the problem, if anything, is that we’re aiming for a draw that would allow us to govern even if we lose the election.”

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