The interview

Ortombina: 'Abroad in search of resources and partners for a stronger Scala'

The new superintendent explains the programmes and strategies of his term of office. International development and territorial links are priorities

by Giovanna Mancini

Fortunato Ortombina, sovraintendente teatro alla scala. (Imagoeconomica)

4' min read

Translated by AI
Versione italiana

4' min read

Translated by AI
Versione italiana

"If I had to summarise the objective of my mandate in one sentence, it is that, after the five years in which I will be at the helm of the theatre, there will no longer be any Milanese who can say they have never been to La Scala". Fortunato Ortombina - former artistic coordinator of the Piermarini from 2003 to 2007, then artistic director of La Fenice in Venice, of which he has been superintendent since 2017 - took over Dominique Meyer's baton at the helm of the La Scala foundation on 17 February last.

The Numbers of the Scaliger Foundation

What theatre did you find again, after so many years?

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A modern Scala, which does culture and research, and is economically healthy. The year 2024 closed with a budget of around 129 million euro and a profit of 200 thousand euro. But above all, with an increase in the number of spectators, 456,800 compared to 398,000 in 2023, in the number of subscribers, which is over 11,000, and in the auditorium fill rate, which has reached 91%. One figure that makes us proud is that of the under-35s, who now make up 30% of our audience. These numbers reflect La Scala's ability to catch the tailwind that has driven all Italian opera houses after the pandemic and to organise the reception of the new generations. One of my goals will be to further strengthen the dialogue with young people and the activities aimed at children and teenagers.

The Milanese public is very fond of La Scala: how can this bond be consolidated?

Through listening. Each spectator is an individual universe, who comes to the theatre sharing with other people a passion and an event to attend, but each with their own wealth of experience. They entrust us with three hours of their lives, which are worth much more than the ticket price. So our duty is to thicken the dialogue with the audience, to really get to know people and what they want. I like to stand in the foyer before the show and during the breaks, greet the audience when they arrive and talk to them. I have always done that and I won't stop doing it. At the same time, we need to thicken the activities for the children, also developing the possibility of having them interact with the show. Maybe in this way, 50 years from now, all the Milanese will be able to say not only that they have been, but also that they have sung at La Scala.

The role of private individuals for La Scala

To do all these activities and maintain the theatre's artistic excellence, resources are needed. There are two ways: increase ticket prices or members' contributions. What will you do?

Ticket prices will remain unchanged, because we must not forget the nature and also the public role of our institution. We will maintain the excellent balance, unique in Italy, between public funds, private contributions and ticket revenues, each of which accounts for about one third of the overall budget. As of 2025, the Banca del Monte di Lombardia Foundation will no longer sit on the board of directors, but it will still be among our supporters and I would like to remind you that many partners contribute significant sums to our budget. Without these private individuals, La Scala would not be the Scala we know, public money would not be enough. Our private supporters are like knights of the Grail who guard the treasure of our theatre, which I call the duty of excellence. Because we cannot rest on the heritage we have, living off our income. I do not believe in repertory theatre as a source of income or, at least, that is not what La Scala must do. Of course there are some productions that it makes sense and importance to repropose, but this theatre must do both history and culture, as well as research and experimentation. And this is possible thanks to the private individuals who support us and participate in our activities.

The International Development Plan

Companies and sponsors, but also individual donors, from Milan and beyond. Two years ago, La Scala supported the establishment of the Association of America. Are other foreign supporters' associations planned?

Yes, there will be others, we are working on it. In addition, we are developing an international development plan for the theatre, which already has a strong cross-border appeal (one third of the audience is foreign, ed.), which can be made to grow further, developing areas of the world where we have been missing for some time, such as Asia. The appointment of maestro Myung-Whun Chung as music director from 2027 goes precisely in the direction of a projection towards the Far East, particularly through touring. In addition, from next September we will start with a new international roadshow to present our theatre and the new season in major international capitals.

So how will the Scala be left to your successor?

It will be a Scala that belongs more and more to the city, because the more a theatre belongs to its city, the more it belongs to the world. It is a lesson I learnt in Venice: projecting ourselves abroad must not make us forget those around us, otherwise we risk losing our identity. In this sense, I would like to strengthen the relationship with Milan's other cultural institutions, starting with the theatres, but also realities such as the Conservatorio and the Civica Scuola di musica and the many universities in the area.

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