Referendum, Nordio: 'I take political responsibility. Bartolozzi not under discussion'
Justice Minister: 'Anm will lobby hard, becomes anomalous political subject'
Key points
- Nordio: 'Anm will press hard, becomes anomalous political subject'
- "Bartolozzi's position is not in question"
- "I exclude judicial retaliation against those who sponsored the reform"
- "Question turned into politics, the No vote went for emotionalism"
- "Measures on Justice under consideration in Parliament are no longer governmental"
- "We will try to complete reform path within the year"
The day after the defeat of the 'yes' vote in the referendum on justice, the minister Carlo Nordio spoke on Sky Tg24 and was self-critical: 'This is a reform that bears my name and I therefore take political responsibility for it. If there were flaws in the communication or approach, they were also mine'.
Nordio: 'Anm will put strong pressure, becomes anomalous political subject'
The minister outlines what could happen now, after the victory of the no. 'Unfortunately, now the intervention of the associated and unionised judiciary will be that of strong political pressure,' he says. 'This is a victory for the Anm, let's be clear. This will give the Anm a bargaining power that will be increased and which the left will also reckon with because sooner or later they will also go into government. Moreover, in the coalition there will be an internal dispute over who will win. And they will have to reckon with the ANM, the real winner, which will become an anomalous political subject, which will oppose governments'.
"Bartolozzi's position is not in question"
"No, absolutely". This is how Nordio responded when asked whether the position of the ministry's chief of staff Giusi Bartolozzi was in question in light of the referendum results. "Regarding the remarks made by both members of my ministry and others in our coalition, I believe that balancing the over-the-top remarks made by ours and made by theirs, the algebraic situation is equivalent. So I don't think that this excess of controversy, which I have always kept away from, has affected me that much," the minister adds.
"I exclude judicial retaliation against those who sponsored the reform"
"I categorically exclude retaliation in the technical sense, i.e. that the judiciary sends information of guarantee, acts or judicial measures against those who have sponsored this reform," says the Guardasigilli. "I say this as a former magistrate who knows his colleagues. It would be sacrilegious to instrumentalise the enormous power of the judiciary to rage against the defeated at this time. I exclude this and I would say that it is an almost unrealistic conception'.
"Question turned into politics, the No vote went for emotionalism"
"The referendum question was extremely technical and unfortunately it was immediately transformed into a political question," Nordio continues, "Whatever one says, the entire campaign by the centre-left was marked by an emotionalism that struck the imagination of the Italians: it was said that we wanted to subvert the Constitution: which is not true because we followed a constitutional procedure. That we wanted to subject the judiciary to the executive: which is not true because the law spoke so clearly. That we even wanted to humiliate the judiciary, that this would be the first step for a whole series of more or less libertarian reforms. These are speeches that touch people's emotions, I don't think everyone has had the diligence to inform themselves about the content of the law. Personally, I did my best for almost two months to explain to the whole of Italia what the merit of the reform was without descending into the political motivations of the reform, evidently this did not work either
